Saturday, February 10, 2007

Standard pentru obscenitate


Cred ca toata lumea a auzit pana la ora asta de celebrul caz Gramo's World, aka Gheorghe Stefanov, lector al Facultatii de Filosofie, Universitatea din Bucuresti. Pe scurt, pentru putinii care nu stiu inca despre ce este vorba: Gheorghe Stefanov e angajat al sus-numitei facultati, preda filosofia limbajului parca (Wittgenstein & co.) si are un blog, co-autorat de el si sotia lui. Pe Gramo's World, Gramo (numele de blogger al lui Gheorghe Stefanov) a postat cateva poze cu el si sotia lui, amandoi goi la mare, facand nudism. De pe site-ul facultatii era un link catre Gramo's World, de unde se putea in mod evident ajunge la respectivele poze. Cotidianul Gandul a reperat treaba asta si a transformat-o intr-un scandal public. Rectoratul universitatii a declansat o ancheta, si Gheorhe Stefanov a fost sanctionat. Detalii tot pe blog. Mai multe detalii despre poveste in general, in articolul din Gandul, care a fost preluat mai tarziu de mai multe canale de stiri, inclusiv de hotnews, de unde am aflat si eu despre el, dar mai ales chiar din Gramo's World.

O multime de blog-uri comenteaza povestea. Cristi Neagoe (ma rog, aglomerarispontane) vorbeste despre credibilitatea blogurilor vs. credibilitatea mediei traditionale, despre libertate de expresie, despre identitate virtuala, Liberalism.ro discuta si el, si multe altele. Google it up pentru niste opinii interesante.

Acum ce m-a intrigat pe mine la intreg cazul, nu a fost chestiunea libertatii de expresie, moralitatii, statului profului in societate, si toate astea. Am fost mult mai tehnica cand am judecat cazul. In mod evident, legea privind statutul personalului didactic spune ca nu pot ocupa posturi didactice, intre altele, cei care se angajeaza in "practicarea, in public, a unor activitati cu componenta lubrica sau altele care implica exhibarea, in maniera obscena, a corpului". Conform acesteia, s-ar putea infera ca decizia rectoratului a fost justa.

Insa, nicaieri in lume nu exista si nu poate exista un standard universal pentru obscenitate. Si in State, libertatea de expresie in materie de sexualitate este neingradita, pana in momentul in care, conform standardelor comunitatii, fructul libertatii de expresie este considerat obscen. Ei bine, comunitatea Facultatii de Filosofie ar fi trebuit sa stabileasca standardul in acest caz. Comunitatea = 95% studenti! I-a intrebat cineva pe studenti ce cred despre asta? Care e standardul lor (al studentului = clientului = beneficiarului educatiei) de determinare a obscenitatii? Sunt convinsa ca, daca s-ar fi aplicat aceasta regula de bun-simt, atitudinea liberala care caracterizeaza in general studentii la filosofie ar fi dat o alta turnura cazului. Pana cand oare sa se considere ca regulile in lumea academica le fac profii/ administratorii, si nu studentii? Pana unde sa mearga centralizarea?

Photo: Howard Schatz

26 comments:

Clara said...

si cum spuneam. CE BOU! Mi se pare si normal ca citind Wittgenstein sa ajunga in situatii de genul asta. Subscriu Neagoe si Corina. Dar asta tot e BOU!

Un spatiu de comunicare intre studenti si administratie este ceea ce incercam si noi aici. In mod surprinzator, chiar si la 23 de ani studentii sunt tratati ca niste copii cam oriunde te duci. E iubirea cetateanului secolului 21 pentru preamaritele institutii care ne inainteaza tzatza la supt. Welfare state baby, welfare state. ti-am zis ca ma acresc...

Corina said...

mai... tipul nu o bou deloc, avand in vedere ca a spulberat orice asteptari cu traficul pe care l-a obtinut in ultima vreme; plus ca am inteles ca ii place sa socheze; deci si-a satisfacut si orgoliul de blogger, si orgoliul personal, reputatia nu i-a fost afectata, ba dimpotriva, a starnit dezbateri, samd.

Corina said...

a... si daca e sa aplici ideea ca e vorba de reputatia scolii la mijloc, iar daca exista un contract intre stefanov si facultate, unde scrie ca trebuie ca el sa respecte legea privind statutul personalului didactic, si ca facultatea va fi cea care sa judece cazul, atunci decizia e corecta; eu contest mecanismul initial prin care s-a ajuns la nebunia asta

Clara said...

cu tot riscul de a parea conservatoare (pentru a cata oara), tin sa te intreb totusi... ai avea vreo placere voyeuristica cand ti-ai vedea proful gol?! mi s-a intamplat candva in Grecia sa imi descopar profele in costum de baie, si tin sa mentionez ca viata mea nu a mai fost nicicand la fel. nu am nimic contra nudismului sau, dar nu vad de ce ar linka treaba asta pe site-ul facultatii. distinctie intre viata privata si imaginea oficiala...

Corina said...

@clara... adevarul e ca mi s-ar parea simpatic sa imi vad profii goi, asta asa ca sunt eu un pic mai voyeur presupun; dar ideea e ca, intr-adevar, nu ar trebui sa existe un link de pe site-ul facultatii pe blog-ul personal al profului, mai ales daca proful sustine ca exista o distinctie intre cele doua identitati ale sale; pe de alta parte insa, discutia e ffff larga. vezi ca s-au tot facut comentarii pe tema asta. nu e cazul sa le repet.

merimeriquitecontrary said...

sunt de-acord ca e larga. totusi cum a argumentat si el e plin de statementuri de genul asta si-n state, germania, china etc.
linkul era la blogul lui personal, nu direct la poze. plus ca mie mi se pare extrem de misto descoperirea ca si profesorii sunt oameni; as accepta de o mie de ori mai repede faptul ca unul din profesorii mei face nudism la mare, decat pot sa accept multe alte magarii pe care le fac unii profi. [note din burta, chiul, dezinteres]
mi se pare aberant scandalul monstru care a iesit.
si nu cred ca avand peste 18 ani sa te mai ataci/sochezi cand iti vezi un prof in fundu' gol. cred ca si tu clara ai fost destul prin zona vama veche - 2 mai.
recunosc ca fiind mult timp pe partea cealalta a baricadei, crescand cu un prof in casa am ajuns sa-i iubesc mai mult pe profesori si sa caut sa le iau apararea ca oameni mai des.
totusi, nu stiu cat merita sa fii complet deschis cu studentii pentru ca nu cred ca multi pot accepta faptul ca esti om.si ca ai pareri si-n afara celor pe care le expui la curs.

merimeriquitecontrary said...

de altfel chestionarele alea de evaluare pentru fiecare curs sunt niste prostii, nimeni nu le ia in considerare si dinozaurii tot dinozauri raman, cu toate grevele de anul trecut si "standardele de obtinere de fonduri"...lenesul mai mult alearga, decat sa faca lucruri cu sens.
totusi ca a bright side profii la facultate mie mi se par mult mai misto decat in liceu si de o mie de ori mai interesanti.

Cosmin said...

interesanta perspectiva pe care o aduce corina in discutie, cu acest standard pentru obscenitate. Cred ca am vazut cu totii pozele respective. Sunt obscene?

Cea ce mie mi se pare de oribil prost gust e ca s-au legat tocmai de postul ala cu pozele, ci nu de celelate sute de posturi. Intamplator am descoperit blogul Gramo chiar cu cateva zile inainte de izbucnirea scandalului, dand de un post in care se scria despre Stimultan :)

Ma intreb oare ce ar iesi daca presa si-ar folosi imensa putere pe care inca o are in scopuri constructive. Imaginati-va cum ar arata titlurile daca ar scrie de exemplu despre Corina, care tine stindardul sus la NY si n-ar pierde timpul cu astfel de pseudo-scandaluri.

Simt o scarba, o greata fata de acest gen de subiecte. Bleah!

Corina said...

@meri... in principiu sunt un pic reticenta la ideea de a avea un link de pe site-ul facultatii pe blog-ul personal; dar inca nu mi-am format o parere foarte clara asupra distinctiei dintre identitate reala/ identitate virtuala/ identitate de blogger... cred ca este un topic interesant de discutie

@cosmin ... e adevarat, e un pseudo-scandal care nu ar fi trebuit sa aiba loc; si totusi poate avea consecinte bune, daca un om de media cu vederi mai largi ar starni o discutie asupra problemei

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